Just got the Hawkwind 3 disc retrospective ' Epochelipse'. It was released in 2003. Half of it's pretty much straight blues rock dressed up in space noise, however I'm finding the other half quite inspiring. Anyone else ever into the band? Anyone seen any recent performnaces, I belive they've played a bit in UK/Europe recently.
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Re: Hawkwind
Mon, January 8, 2007 - 5:22 PMI haven't gotten into them that much, but I do like a freaky album by their sometimes-singer, the late Robert Calvert, called "Captain Lockheed and the Starfighters." In a strong contender for the strangest theme for a concept album, the whole thing revolves around the Lockheed Corp. selling fighter planes, known to be defective, to the German air force, which proceeds to lose a large number of pilots in them. With pounding songs like "Ejection" and "Widowmaker" intersperced with (usually) funny dialogue, this is a fun one to break out at certain times of certain nights..... -
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Re: Hawkwind
Mon, January 8, 2007 - 7:14 PMI'm showing my age here of course but I remember their "In Search of Space" recording from the early 70s. True space rock and a bit avant garde for its time. When I worked in college radio back in the 70s, one of the othr DJs and I used to talk about them. Back then Hawkwind had a guy named Dik Mik in the band. I can't remember but I think he did mostly electronic sound effects, possibly played keyboards too. He left the band not too long after In Search of Space and my friend would always lament (half jokingly) "No more Dik Mik!"
Hawkwind became "Hawklords" for a brief time in the late 70s - early 80s.
I can't beleive they're still together. Or are they? I haven't kept up with them over the years.
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Re: Hawkwind
Mon, January 8, 2007 - 7:33 PMI think their 90s were even better than the 70s. Electric Teepee, It Is The Business Of The Future To Be Dangerous, California Brainstorm – these albums are incredible.
I’ve never considered them as a prog band, though.
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Re: Hawkwind
Tue, January 9, 2007 - 6:06 AMDidn't they essentially become Motorhead? -
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Re: Hawkwind
Tue, January 9, 2007 - 11:51 AMNo, there's only one guy from Hawkwind in Motorhead, Lemmy KIlminster, and it's quite different music, although, of course, it is possible to find something common between these bands. By the way, it's interesting to notice that another guy from Hawkwind, Dave Anderson, played with Amon Duul II and later with the 3rd incarnation of Amon Duul, so-called Amon Duul UK, so there is a link between Hawkwind and krautrock. Sometimes I think that initially Hawkwind was just a British response to Amon Duul and krautrock as a whole :) A powerful response, anyway.
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Re: Hawkwind
Tue, January 9, 2007 - 1:14 PMI read that there was quite a bit of animus between the "official" Amon Duul II and the Dave Anderson "UK" version of the band. I've got the "UK" CD, with Robert Calvert as guest vocalist, and it stands pretty well on its own.....good guitar, good vocals, driving beat. The two songs with the female vocalist (whose name escapes me) are particularly well done. I'm not at home, so I'm going from memory, but I think the CD title is "Die Losung." -
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Tue, January 9, 2007 - 1:16 PMTo see what a stone-freak Robert Calvert actually was, check this out:
www.aural-innovations.com/robertcalvert/
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Tue, January 9, 2007 - 2:09 PMWell, there was also certain animus between the first and the second Amon Duuls. The first wanted to play raw amateurish psychedelic music, the second learned to play; notwithstanding their friction, both bands were excellent. As for the UK version, John Weinzierl from ADII played there, but his colleagues were probably displeased by that, especially because ADII didn’t exist in the 80s.
I guess I have to buy Die Losung. So far the only album I’ve heard from this third incarnation is Fool Moon, and it is very good.
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Re: Hawkwind
Tue, January 9, 2007 - 2:49 PM"UK" version also did "Hawk Meets Penguin" or somesuch title (relying on memory here, and I have this one on LP!), didn't they? That one is just doodling for two sides.....not nearly as good as "Die Losung." -
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Re: Hawkwind
Tue, January 9, 2007 - 3:28 PMYeah, it's probably their first album.
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Re: Hawkwind
Wed, January 10, 2007 - 11:24 AMI heard it said, and perhaps I am mistaken but it had the sound of verity, that Lemmy wasn't actually ever IN Hawkwind, he was just a roadie. Lugged about their amps and whatnot. So Motörhead is essentially a roadie fantasy band which somehow ended up lasting 30+ years. True? Not true? -
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Wed, January 10, 2007 - 1:56 PMTo my knowledge, in Hawkwind he played bass, sang a few times and composed a song called Motorhead. -
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Wed, January 10, 2007 - 3:00 PMi knew there was a reason i joined this tribe. thanks. -
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Re: Hawkwind with Lemmy
Sat, January 13, 2007 - 9:56 AMMy favorite Hawkwind album with Lemmy is HALL OF THE MOUNTAIN GRILL.
He's also on DOREMI FASOL LATIDO and the live SPACE RITUAL (I think).
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Tue, January 30, 2007 - 10:21 AMThe legend is that Lemmy was a roadie for Hendrix for a while. He was bassist for Hawkwind and lead singer on "Silver Machine". -
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Fri, February 2, 2007 - 11:59 AMi am very happy to be disabused of my misconceptions. as something of a motörhead fan, i now must go out and find all hawkwind recordings featuring lemmy!
it's remarkable the man is still alive, let alone rocking the f?!? out at his age. he's like godzilla, a radioactively preserved dinosaur from hell. truly awesome. -
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Fri, February 2, 2007 - 12:22 PMI love Motorhead... Saw the most hilarious marketing pair-up courtesy of some cable company...
Harry Potter presents: Motorhead!
With a billing like that I about sprayed coffee everywhere as I went for the remote... -
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Fri, February 2, 2007 - 12:28 PM... the show was part of the On Demand system... But to see that listed in the one-line description was priceless...
From what I recall of exploring Hawkwind after being compared, I was surprised to see Lemm's name, too.
What I remember of the stuff involving Lemmy was tasty dark metal riff based canons with interjected blasts of saxophone and synthesizrs ( and theramin? Sorry, this was '98 that I heard it.) that almost just didn't work together, or did, depending on how your taste slants.
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Fri, February 2, 2007 - 12:34 PMImagine Black Sabbath jamming while watching "Forbidden Planet" Really Loud, and toss in Motorhead Sherwood ( the *other* Motorhead!, early FZ cohort) on sax
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Re: Hawkwind
Fri, February 2, 2007 - 3:27 PMand that, my friends, is the sound of the music being played at the bar in the demon world in mick farren's "necrom".
i assume you are familiar with mick farren.
perhaps should be reserved for the "garage psychedelia" tribe...
psychedelia and prog are certainly bastard cousins though. or maybe psych is prog's perverted uncle. fripp himself stated quite plainly that it was hendrix who blew his mind off of its classicist moorings. -
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Sat, February 3, 2007 - 1:09 AMMr. Ferren, I'm pleased to say, still creates...his columns appeared in LA City Beat this past year..and I enjoy his blogspot.com pages on politics... -
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Sat, February 3, 2007 - 11:19 AMWow. NECROM by Mick Farren. I gotta read that again. "Lost Johnny" by Hawkwind was co-written by Farren and Lemmy for those of you keeping score at home. -
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Sat, February 3, 2007 - 11:41 AMi suppose i could just google, but which album? -
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Mon, February 5, 2007 - 2:43 AMHALL OF THE MOUNTAIN GRILL is the Hawkwind album with LOST JOHNNY - probably the best Lemmy-era Hawkwind jams.
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BEHOLD, THE POWER OF THE GOOGLE
Sat, February 3, 2007 - 11:44 AMLost Johnny
(Farren / Kilmister)
You only get a single chance
The rules are very plain
The truth is well concealed inside
The details of the game
You can see it coming
You can hear it from afar
It's pale and it flickers
Like a faded movie star
And up there in the castle
They're trying to make us scream
By sticking thumb tacks in her flesh
And cancelling the dream
Can you find the valium?
Can you bring it soon?
Lost Johnny's out there
Baying at the Moon
The time has come for you to choose
You'd better get it right
Berlin girls with sharp white teeth
Are waiting in the night
But you oughta really get some
It surely can't be hard
There's always trouble waiting
When you leave your own back yard
And underneath the city
The alligators sing
About how the puppets cannot dance
Since someone cut the strings
Run and get the morphine
For God's sake make it brief
Lost Johnny's out there
Looking for relief
Now Simon looks so evil
And you know he really tries
But every time he makes a play
That vital number dies
And Sally buys her underwear
From a store where no-one goes
She makes it big in photographs
On the strength of what she shows
And here inside the waiting room
The radio still screams
And we're all taking Tuenol
To murder our young dreams
Run and fetch your credit card
Try to make it quick
Lost Johnny's out there
Trying to turn a trick
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Re: Hawkwind
Tue, January 9, 2007 - 9:10 PMHawkwind is going to be at NEARFest - www.nearfest.com - which reminds me, I need to book my hotel room... -
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Wed, January 10, 2007 - 12:13 PMCoincidentally, I just got this from the Artist Shop newletter by e-mail last night:
Coming soon from Eclectic Discs <www.artist-shop.com/eclectic>
Robert Calvert/Captain Lockheed and the Starfighters ....import CD $18.99
The first solo album by Hawkwind poet, lyricist and frontman Robert Calvert
was first released in 1974 to huge critical acclaim. Featuring Hawkwind and
special guests Paul Rudolph (of the Pink Fairies), Vivian Stanshall, Brian
Eno, Arthur Brown and Jim Capaldi, the album is a conceptual work of
excellence and dark wit. Remastered from the original master tapes and with
fully restored artwork, this Eclectic Discs reissue features three bonus
tracks including a previously unreleased extended version of "The Right
Stuff" and is certain to appeal to the legions of Hawkwind fans throughout
the land.
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Re: Hawkwind
Thu, February 1, 2007 - 11:43 AMYeah.. heh... okay...
My Hawkwind Story
In 1998 I was playing in coffeshops and other small venues in ST Cloud, Mn, with a sax player. It was a 2 man act, with a notebook pc coordinating a mad scientist's display of devices on stage, complete with overhead projections. It was pretty dadaistic stuff and one day a person came up to me and said "you guys remind me of Hawkwind". I told him that I hadn't heard of them and would look into them.
I'm still not quite sure which element was most common, the heavy guitar, the mad scientist/sci-fi synth sounds or insane saxophone blasts...
"Space Is ...." *sigh*
Jaroba, the other member of Duke Resonant, the afforementioned act, and a current member of it's derivative project, the Duke Resonant Orchestra, has had the pleasure of meeting Del Dittmar. -
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Re: Hawkwind
Thu, May 24, 2007 - 10:15 AMOh I loved them as a band. like the Ozrics, they were really hit or miss live. My favorite albums are still the slightly later ones, "Astounding sounds", "Levitation" and "especially "Quark Strangeness and Charm" -
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Fri, December 21, 2007 - 12:25 PMI enjoy a lot of the Hawkwind stuff but "High Rise" is still a favorite. -
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Sat, January 12, 2008 - 11:21 AMI just found "Hall of the Mountain Grill". Thanks for turning me on to Hawkwind! Very interesting, trippy music. And hearing Lemmy sing a couple songs from that far back is amazing. -
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Sat, January 12, 2008 - 10:34 PMThey have several live DVDs available the one I own: "Out of the Shadows" is pretty good...does help to have a drink or two (or whatever your poison may be) while watching though.
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Re: Hawkwind
Sun, January 13, 2008 - 4:53 PMLemmy was also singer/guitarist in a pretty good 60s psych band called Sam Gopal (named after the band's leader/tabla player).
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