YES is prog, right?

topic posted Sun, September 30, 2007 - 12:49 PM by  Erica
I'm an all over the map style lover..... a pretty diverse musician too. So I don't always explore into each "genre" of music. I want to know some other great music along these lines. I absolutely love YES..... pretty sure they're considered prog. Not a big fan of Rush however, I like the music comp I've heard from them (mainly radio stuff), just don't like his voice, along w/ a few other details. - I can be pretty picky as to reasons why I like an artist- Anyhow. How about some direction as to bands and albums to check out ?! thanks !
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Erica
Buffalo
  • Re: YES is prog, right?

    Sun, September 30, 2007 - 1:12 PM
    HELL yeah! :) Yes is almost always included in short lists of bands that represent prog rock. Also check out EARLY Genesis (I can't stress "early" enough, here.) Foxtrot is an *amazing* album. It was released in 1972. I'd also recommend Selling England by the Pound (1973 -- Firth of Fifth is an *unbelievable* song) and Nursery Cryme (1971). Gentle Giant is another "must have." Check out Free Hand (1975) and In A Glass House (1973). ELP (Emerson, Lake, and Palmer) are frequently mentioned, as well as King Crimson, but I'll let others who are more familiar with them talk about those.

    I also personally recommend a band called Focus. 1970s Dutch prog. Very obscure, but fantastic. To start, I'd recommend the albums Moving Waves (1971) and Hamburger Concerto (1974).

    For great newer prog, there's a fantastic band called Anglagard. They only came out with a few albums. I highly recommend Hybris. The song Jordrok is *incredible*. I think it may be the best purely instrumental prog song I've encountered.

    Welcome to the wonderful, magical world of prog rock! :)
    • Re: YES is prog, right?

      Sun, September 30, 2007 - 1:27 PM
      To answer your question with another question, "Does the Pope wear a funny hat?" As far as great recordings by them, you can't go wrong with "The Yes Album", "Fragile", and "Close to the Edge". Those are pretty much Yes at the peak of their creativity. I like their other albums right up to "Tormato" as well. Frankly they started sucking in the 80s. I didn't even care by the 90s.
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        Sun, September 30, 2007 - 1:37 PM
        Oh sorry....other prog bands......Yep, early Genesis, ELP, and King Crimson, Jethro Tull, Gong, CAN, Heldon, Amon Duul ll, the Soft Machine...Any of the mentioned bands 70s output is magnificent.
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          Sun, September 30, 2007 - 2:03 PM
          also eloy, some steve hillage, some john mclaughlin, oh man and who else?

          i can suggest a few obscure japanese bands like angel in heavy syrup and marble sheep and the run down sun's children.
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            Sun, September 30, 2007 - 2:04 PM
            oh and BTW, "tales from topographic oceans" is in my opinion one of the all time prog rock classics.
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              Sun, September 30, 2007 - 2:06 PM
              And ironically, Topographic Oceans was vilified by critics at the time, and was what prompted Wakeman to leave. I've always liked it, but a lot of Yes fans don't.

              "Relayer", Yes' next album was, in many ways, more extreme, though it is often a fan favorite these days.
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                Sun, September 30, 2007 - 2:10 PM
                relayer IS extreme, isn't it?!?

                "the gates of delirium" ranks right up there as an hallucinogenic masterpiece as well!
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                  Sun, September 30, 2007 - 2:14 PM
                  There is an Asian DVD of Yes live on the Relayer tour and I have been wanting it for some time but I just don't know about forking over 35 bucks to some unknown vendor in Malaysia....I wish that they would release it here.
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                Sun, September 30, 2007 - 2:13 PM
                Despite the fact that I've recently discovered a great deal of *incredible* prog over the last couple of years (including early Genesis, Gentle Giant, etc., which I had never been exposed to until just the last couple of years), I think I still have to say that Tales from Topographic Oceans is my all-time favorite prog rock album.

                Oh, and on the general topic at hand, I *must* recommend Todd Rundgren's Utopia: www.amazon.com/Todd-Rundg...393-4496162

                Fucking *amazing* album.
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                  Sun, September 30, 2007 - 10:10 PM
                  "I think I still have to say that Tales from Topographic Oceans is my all-time favorite prog rock album."

                  I'm sorry, I really need to make a correction to this. Not that anyone cares, but it's just poking at me. That should read "my all-time favorite album," not just prog album.

                  Carry on.
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      Sun, September 30, 2007 - 2:21 PM
      Dude, I just found out that Amazon.com has only *one* Anglagard -- Hybris CD available, and it's selling for $100:

      www.amazon.com/Hybris-Ang...393-4496162

      What the hell, man? I bought my Hybris CD from them a year or two ago, and it was just a regular production CD. Any Anglagard fans who know what's up with that?

      Geez, I might have to put mine in a safety deposit box or something.
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    Sun, September 30, 2007 - 5:16 PM
    Erica, agree with everything. Yes, Yes is prog! Prototypic prog. Rush, eh... not so much. Kinda borderline to the genre in my opinion, and I agree that what keeps me from being a fan of Rush is Geddy Lee's voice. That is my problem with Dream Theater, the vocals, yuck.

    Bands to check out: Genesis (early Gabriel era is best), King Crimson, Porcupine Tree, and I like Muse too. Another band that is borderline prog that I like is Procol Harum.
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    Sun, September 30, 2007 - 9:55 PM
    Erica, i mostly agree with those here who say they don't like Yes beyond their 70's work, but i would make an exception for Going For The One. "Awaken" is just an incredible piece of music. after that it gets a bit sketchy. My personal hatred is reserved for the Trevor Horn era. i'm not sure which albums you're into or which one's you've heard, but my favorites are their very first album, which features one of their most epic songs "Survival"; The Yes Album, with classic songs like "Yours is No Disgrace", "Starship Trooper", "I've Seen All Good People/Your Move"; of course, Close to the Edge; and obviously Fragile. i don't really go for greatest hits type compilations as i am a fanatic about album sequencing, but i have some slight tolerance for their live album Yessongs.

    also, if you like that musically dense type of stuff, a contemporary band that sounds somewhat influenced by Yes is The Mars Volta, which includes former members of At The Drive-In. they are sort of a post-punk math-rock jazz-fusion-prog sort of hybrid, with as much Yes as Santana and other crazy things mixed in. they have a web site if you want to check out some of their wild videos.

    as for Genesis - the absolute must-listen-to is The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway, which was their last album with lead singer Peter Gabriel. It was recently digitally remastered and holds up to anything out there today.

    most of us here would recommend something by King Crimson - some of us favor their earlier more spaced-out stuff from the 60's and 70's like "Starless and Bible Black" or their live album "USA" which is my personal fave - while others among us favor their 80's revival which featured Adrian Belew on vocals and second guitar.

    another few personal favorites that i think are exemplary prog recordings:
    1. "Octopus" by Gentle Giant
    2. "UK", first album by supergroup of the same name, featuring members of Yes, King Crimson and others
    3. "Manzanera", solo album by Phil Manzanera of Roxy Music
    4. "Chords" by Larry Fast, synthesizer player on several of Peter Gabriel's solo albums
    5. "Meridian" by the Monks of Doom, a supergroup featuring most of Camper Van Beethoven plus the guitar player from the Ophelias

    if you find things along the way you think we haven't heard about or might like - or, even if you just want to blather on and on with your opinions about any of it - you've come to the right place, and welcome to it!
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      Sun, September 30, 2007 - 10:07 PM
      ""Awaken" is just an incredible piece of music."

      Oh, dude, fucking DITTO THAT! That's my favorite song. Period. Not just favorite Yes song. All-time favorite song.

      Ditto on the album UK, too. It's a bit more synthy than 70s prog, but it's really, really good.

      ""Chords" by Larry Fast"

      Aaaggh! Dude! Did I know that you're a Synergy fan? (That's the name of the "band" the album's listed under, for anyone who wants to look for it.) Awesome! :D There are so few of us Synergy geeks. And Chords is my favorite, BTW, although I love all of them.
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      Sun, September 30, 2007 - 10:45 PM
      >> i mostly agree with those here who say they don't like Yes beyond their 70's work, but i would make an exception for Going For The One. "Awaken" is just an incredible piece of music.


      All true, except.... Going for the One *is* a 70's album, 1977 to be specific.
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        Mon, October 1, 2007 - 2:43 AM
        What a funny thread!! Just earlier today, my friend made reference to the 'funny hat' thing re. the Pope....

        But more importantly, there happens to be a Focus cd in the changer right now. And about 80+% each, of the commercially released cds by Yes, Porcupine Tree and King Crimson (plus some live recordings) are in this apartment. And I don't even have all of "my" cd's here right now!!! ;-)

        Yes is the definitive prog, in my book. I suppose you could call them "psychedelic" too, but in today's world, that isn't as "flattering" a term as should be applied to them. I say the same for Porcupine tree and some of the other bands I love. I think to use the term "prog," gives the most respect, somehow. Maybe I'm nutty here, but it just seems these terms have connotations, and that "prog" is the most respectful....

        Fwiw, "Relayer" is my favorite Yes album. Despite the fact that I think Rick Wakeman is God. And for those of you bashing anything past 1979, they did get good again in the 1990's!! Check out "The Ladder" for starters....

        Speaking of voices.... I *do* like Rush and Dream Theatre (particularly old Rush). However, I can't stand Sting's voice!!!!) Put these with Jon Anderson, and go figure!! ;-)

        Note to self: I need to check out Mars Volta!! Been hearing this for a long time now.....
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          Mon, October 1, 2007 - 6:27 AM
          Can't forget Van der Graaf Generator. More of the "Eurpoean" school of 70s progressive music, this British band was fronted by the esteemed Peter Hammill. His vocals are not to everyone's taste, but they never lack commitment and his lyrics are some of the best out there. Thinking man's (and woman's) prog with absolutely NO concessions to commercial appeal. My favorite album of their is the most controversial one, which is the live album "Vital." Punks like Johnny Rotten have called that album influential, and it's purported to be the only prog that the British punks thought had any credibility--not that I give a crap what British punks like....I just include this for the record :-) This is Peter Hammill at his most raw and agressive, and the band is totally of the same mindset. The album takes songs that were much more stately in their earlier incarnations and puts a wild, crazy energy into them. Some of the sickest fuzz bass you'll ever hear--the bass amps purportedly had to be bolted to the stage floor on that tour. Cellos and violins sawing madly away while the rhythm section thunders and Mr. Hammill peels the paint. Wild stuff, and now out on CD in it's full version (previous editions were missing two songs).

          Also, check out Nektar ("Recycle"; "Down to Earth") and Aphrodite's Child ("666"). Also, Chris Squire (bass player for Yes) has a wonderful 70s solo album called "Fish Out of Water."

          ps. "Awaken" is definitely the greatest song ever recorded. When I saw Yes do it live in the round in '79, I was a convert for life.
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            Mon, October 1, 2007 - 9:32 AM
            "ps. "Awaken" is definitely the greatest song ever recorded. When I saw Yes do it live in the round in '79, I was a convert for life."

            I have just turned a quite violent shade of green.
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            Mon, October 1, 2007 - 9:48 AM
            kudos for name-dropping VDGG!

            peter hammill is AWESOME. i loved the singing he did on robert fripp's solo album "exposure".
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              Mon, October 1, 2007 - 11:26 AM
              When Fripp re-issued Exposure, it came out as a three disc set...evidently, there was an entirely different mix of the album that the record company originally wouldn't let him put out. It's all very confusing, but I think the story is that John Hall (of the loathsome Hall & Oates) did the vocals and his record company didn't want him to be associated with something so non-pop as "Exposure", so the vocals were replaced by Peter Hammill (who I'd much rather hear, anyway). So now, when you buy the thing, you can hear both :-)
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        Mon, October 1, 2007 - 9:47 AM
        duh - i stand very corrected. and i even have memories of listening to it when it first came out. i am shamed. :(

        we could always just say it's ahead of its time.

        was "tormato" out in the 80's? it didn't all suck.
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          Mon, October 1, 2007 - 11:12 AM
          Since a few people have been asking about chronologies and dates of Yes music and such, I present:


          A brief history of Yes and the band’s recordings (opinions are entirely mine, of course), listed by studio album, in order:

          “Yes”, “Time and a Word” – late 1960s releases, Beatles-influenced and often bluesy, before the arrival of Steve Howe. Interesting as historical works, but for me not worth owning.

          “The Yes Album” – Howe arrives (Tony Kaye on keyboards), first great album, containing the classics “All Good People” and “Starship Troopers.” Anderson, Squire, Bruford, Howe, Kaye 1970

          “Fragile” – Wakeman arrives and Yes is truly born. “Roundabout” is a major hit single, despite being 8-odd minutes long. Anderson, Squire, Bruford, Howe, Wakeman 1971

          “Close to the Edge” – for many the definitive Yes album, for many, the greatest prog album ever. The 18-minute title track still blows us away. Anderson, Squire, Bruford, Howe, Wakeman 1972

          “Tales from Topographic Oceans” – Bruford leaves before this, feeling he’s done all he can with the band; chooses Alan White as his replacement. A double record, four songs (one on each side). Long, proggy, mind-boggling, turns off a lot of people, including Wakeman who leaves (the first of many times!) after the tour. Anderson, Squire, White, Howe, Wakeman 1973

          “Relayer” – far from simplifying their sound, Yes became even more “proggy” and extreme with this album. No major label would ever allow an album like this to be released today! Patrick Moraz replaced Wakeman. “Gates of Delirium” a 21-minute anti-war epic, is like nothing Yes has done before. Anderson, Squire, White, Howe, Moraz 1974

          “Going for the One” – the band rested for three years and did solo albums, of which Chris Squire’s “Fish out of Water” is the notable stand out. Reconvening, Wakeman rejoined (“because Yes was writing songs again,” he said). Often thought of as the band’s last great album, with its exceptional writing on “Turn of the Century” and “Awaken.” Anderson, Squire, White, Howe, Wakeman 1977

          “Tormato” – the storm clouds gather. A weak follow-up that has some nice songs (“Madrigal”, “Silent Wings of Freedom”) and some lousy ones (“Arriving UFO”, “Circus of Heaven”). The album sounds rushed, the playing is a bit sloppy at times, but for the first time since Fragile and CttE, the line-up is the same in two consecutive albums. Anderson, Squire, White, Howe, Wakeman 1978

          “Drama” – the album that divides Yes fans like no other. Is it really even Yes? Personally I like it. Anderson and Wakeman decide they’ve had enough and depart after some aborted recording sessions (later known as the Paris Sessions, pretty awful stuff). Trevor Horn and Geoff Downes join, the tour tanks, the band breaks up. Horn, Squire, White, Howe, Downes 1980

          “90125” and “Big Generator” – the 80s incarnation of Yes, that achieved considerable pop success. Howe went on to form Asia with Downes, also hugely successful. These albums aren’t total losses, but I don’t care for either of them. Kaye returns and Trevor Rabin is the new guitarist. Anderson, Squire, White, Rabin, Kaye 1983 and 1986

          “Anderson, Bruford, Wakeman, Howe” – Anderson becomes tried of pop and wants to do prog again, Squire continues with Yes. Squire owns the name “Yes”, but Howe owns the classic Roger Dean Yes logo, so neither can be used by the other. As one commentator put it, Spinal Tap could not have envisioned a more absurd situation. So, these four got together under their own name and produced a Yes-like album that has some nice moments. As the name implies, it’s Anderson, Bruford, Wakeman, Howe, with Tony Levin on Bass 1989

          “Union” – eventually ABWH and Squire’s Yes decided to combine forces, resulting in a ridiculous and uneven album that is just a mix of new ABWH tracks and Yes tracks, played by the respective bands, with Anderson singing on both. Less-than-memorable songs, though the tour was quite excellent. (deep breath): Anderson, Bruford, Wakeman, Howe, Squire, Rabin, Kaye, White 1991

          “Talk” – the union didn’t last long, and the band was back to its 1980s line-up. An average album, with one decent long song, “Endless Dream” Anderson, Squire, Rabin, Kaye, White 1994

          “Keys to Ascension I and II” – the much-hyped reunion, a couple of one-off concerts and two new CDs of live and new studio material. As for the studio music, “Keys I” is largely forgettable, “Keys II” has a very nice 18-minute song, “Mind Drive” which could well have been recorded in the 70s. It didn’t last. Wakeman was already gone again before the albums were released. Anderson, Squire, White, Howe, Wakeman 1996 and 1997

          “Open Your Eyes” – a better title would be “Cover Your Ears.” Despite Howe’s presence, mostly pop drivel influenced by Billy Sherwood, the band’s producer “rewarded” with a spot in the group. 1997 Anderson, Squire, White, Howe, Sherwood

          “The Ladder” – a significant improvement, bringing Russian keyboardist Igor Khoroshev into the mix (he had guested on the previous album). Definitely some good music here, though not all of it. Anderson, Squire, White, Howe, Sherwood, Khoroshev 1999

          “Magnification” – both Igor and Billy are gone, and the remaining four team up with a symphony orchestra. Again, like “The Ladder” some nice material, nothing that really blows me away, but much better than their pop efforts. Anderson, Squire, White, Howe, orchestra 2001

          Since then, there have been no new albums, and frankly, I don’t think there will be.

          Anderson, Squire, White, Howe, Wakeman reunited (yet again!) for a world tour, which was fantastic! One of the best shows I’ve ever seen of them. But instead of capitalizing on that, they went their separate ways again and got involved in other projects (Howe deemed it necessary to re-join Asia…).

          So, there you have it, Tim’s biased and completely unauthorized guide to the Yes studio discography. Basically every album from “The Yes Album” to “Going for the One’ are must-haves, everything else can be decided on a per-album basis. I own every one except the first two, 90125, and Open Your Eyes.

          Rhino Records has re-released all of the old catalog with the original artwork in the CD packages, plus loads of bonus tracks and studio takes as extras, usually at decent prices ($11.99 or so).
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            Mon, October 1, 2007 - 12:26 PM
            Excellent review of the Yes catalog. Also agree that The Yes Album through Going For The One are must haves in any prog collection.
            Now what would be the equivalent must have set for Genesis.... Trespass through Wind and Withering?
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              Mon, October 1, 2007 - 3:00 PM
              As for Genesis:

              Trespass - the band's second album, a vast improvement over the first (which has been re-released a dozen times over the years). Pre-Hackett and Collins, still worth having. 1970

              Nursery Cryme - Enter Hackett and Collins, first album of the classic line-up. Two majestic stand-out tracks, "The Musical Box" and "The Fountain of Salmacis" 1971

              Foxtrot - the classic Genesis album, including "Watcher of the Skies" and "Supper's Ready" the band's 19 minute prog magnum opus. An absolute must-have 1972

              Genesis Live - not originally intended for release, it is still a very nice live album (one record) 1972

              Selling England by the Pound - more greatness, includes the classics "Firth of Fifth" and "Cinema Show" 1973

              Lamb Lies Down on Broadway - another dividing album. It's bizarre subject matter and double-album length put off many, and Gabriel had already decided to leave the band during the tour. Some great music, though 1974

              A Trick of the Tail - Gabriel had left, Collins takes over the vocals, and the band keeps right on going. Simpler songs at times, but very well-crafted and nicely done. 1976

              Wind and Wuthering - Hacket was having a lot of tension with the group, as group songwriting had been replaced by individuals' songs, most of which were coming from Tony Banks. Hacket's contributions are excellent, though; "Blood on the Rooftops" is one of my favorite Genesis songs ever. End of 1976

              Seconds Out - an excellent live album (double disc) that includes many classics, and a superb version of Supper's Ready. Bill Bruford is featured on the Cinema Show, and I wish they'd included more live songs with him. Hacket left before the album was even released. 1977

              And then there were Three - great opening song, a lot more commercial otherwise, a foreshadowing of what was to come. The group now consisted of Collins, Banks, and Rutherford, and would remain that way. Not one of my favorites. 1978

              Duke - a surprising rebound, and surprisingly "proggy", given its release date. The original intention was to have a side-long song, but the work was too long for the records of the time, so it was split up into three at the beginning, the hit "Turn it on Again" somewhere in the middle, and the last two (instrumentals) at the end of the record. While it is the commercial Genesis 80s sound often, the instrumentals are fantastic. 1980

              ABACAB and beyond - eh, forget it...


              Must-haves: Trespass through Second Out; "Three" is iffy, "Duke" is quite good...
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                Mon, October 1, 2007 - 5:55 PM
                Another good commentary on a discography :-) thanks.
                Yep, I should have included Seconds Out in the must have list for Genesis. There is some good music on the "yellow" album titled Genesis (Home by the Sea/Second Home by the Sea and Moma), and I even like a song or two on Calling All Stations (The Dividing Line). Otherwise I'd skip everything after Duke.
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                  Mon, October 1, 2007 - 6:35 PM
                  tim...

                  your yes discography is indeed well thought out and written.

                  what are your personal "must haves"?

                  mine are "yessongs" and "tales from topographic oceans".


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                    Mon, October 1, 2007 - 6:40 PM
                    Yes must-haves?

                    For me, everything from Fragile to Going for the One. Some of the best prog rock ever written...
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                      Mon, October 1, 2007 - 7:38 PM
                      that's a pretty good range. for years i knew about the first album but didn't listen to it, disliked "tormato" (but i purchased it) shuddered through "drama" (but again, i purchsed it) and so on. eighties yes did very little for me, as did 90's yes and i have listened to none of the new millenium yes.

                      there's a song i liked on "talk" quite a lot but after hearing it, i simply just gave up on the band.
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            Mon, October 1, 2007 - 10:44 PM
            <<“Yes”, “Time and a Word” – late 1960s releases, Beatles-influenced and often bluesy, before the arrival of Steve Howe. Interesting as historical works, but for me not worth owning>>

            Tim, i can't agree about the first album - while it has its lackluster moments, "Survival" is probably one of the ten best tracks they ever recorded, for lyrics, for dramatic impact, for musicianship and musicality - even without steve howe on guitar it is a strong foreshadowing of their later work. "Time and a Word" i couldn't venture an opinion about either way.
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      Mon, October 1, 2007 - 4:54 PM
      Hey, Going for the One was released in either 77 (I believe) so there you go. Tormato was either late 78 or 79. I really hated the one album with the Buggles when it was put out but, wonder if I would still hate it today if I heard it.
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        Tue, October 2, 2007 - 6:27 AM
        I like the Drama album. It's well written, performed and produced, and the tour was actually pretty good (the show I saw in San Antonio, anyway, despite it starting over an hour late due to Squire piddling about somewhere). I recommend going back and listening to it again, on its own merits and without all the baggage that so often surround it....I think you may be surprised how well it holds up. Better than Tormato, in my opinion......done with more conviction and energy.
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    Thu, October 4, 2007 - 11:30 AM
    You guys all rock ! Thanks so much. I knew that subject title would get some response ! yay! Lots of info here for me to now indulge my ears with. Some of the bands recommended here I didn't even realize are considered in the prog lines..... definetly going to check out more early Genesis ( I know some already ). Some of the bands recommended (King Crimson, Mars Volta) I've heard of through fans of "jam bands" and through strung out hippies who believe the Grateful Dead were the best ever (pffft.....nice lyrics thanks to Robert Hunter, some nice song writting... but comeon' , there's only so much noodling around on three chords for half an hour that one can stand ! even on drugs !!! ) Sorry , I get a little heated on that subject, I digress. Needless to say, I brushed those bands to the side (ie Crimson/Volta), but now will check them out, thanks again ~~~ and if they do suck, i'm blaming all of you !!! hah.

    Oh. and "Awaken" is freeeeekin' amazing..... all this talk of Yes makes me wish I brought some to the store w/ me today!!!!!

    on another note. The first song I amazed my Dad (guitar player) with, was "Roundabout" !!! He was like " Whoa, where'dya learn that? " and I was like " Uuuh, off the cd . " , wasn't quite sure what he meant at first !! So that was awesome because my Dad doesn't show much excitement about anything ... unless it's about some crazy rocker he loves ! ~ just had to share!~